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Sunday, March 27th 2011

10:29 AM

Notes Of An Equal Opportunity Offender

I knew it wouldn't be long before one of my latest offerings to the newly reconstituted In Mala Fide, "The Plight of the Marginal White Male" would garner howls of foul play; after all, telling it like it TIZ is something not for the faint of heart. But I figured that our Fearless Leader, Mr. Ferdinand Bardamu, would be up for the challenge, given his mandate issued on Feb 25, 2011:

"Unlike more narrowly focused and tamer sites like The Spearhead or Alternative Right, the sort of content I want to publish here will run the gamut from political and economic analysis to self-improvement advice (game and whatnot) and other things – an all-access stop for crimethink, amusement and vulgarity. By pooling the talents of multiple writers on a single site, we’ll have a much greater impact than on individual blogs...If you’re interested in becoming a contributor to In Mala Fide, either by writing front-page articles or on an IMF-hosted blog, I’ll hook you up with an account. You can write about anything you want, be it feminism or game or white nationalism or HBD or economics or Christian patriarchy or stuff from other venues – whatever you like, as often as you like, from whatever perspective you like."

Oh goody, I thought to myself, it's on like popcorn. Besides, I did play a small role in Ferd's latest course correction, which I think is for the better (as Alte alluded to in the post in question), and I like Ferd's idea of a ragtag loosely knit group of bloggers coming together and putting their thing down, showing the MSM how its truly done. As I read his words, I chuckled to myself thinking back on a recent flare-up I had over at a Black blog I frequent, called Very Smart Brothas (Note to my White peeps: when referring to VSB, please used the word/term "Brothas" NOT "Brothers"; when you do the latter you remind me of what the Boondocks' Riley said about White folks), where I was accused of "hatin'" on Champ and Panama Jackson because they had just put out a book and I didn't, ie, I was somehow jealous of them. That's when the old saw about how Black folks, particularly but not solely limited to Black Men, don't read or isn't very aware about the world around them, sprang instantly to mind - book writing is so very 20th century. Unless you have a specific niche, already have a big name and keep the book itself under 200 pages, writing a deadwood tome is an utter waste of time to say nothing of expensive (and even with the aforementioned caveats in place, it's a crapshoot); it's the equivalent of looking for a job in the newspaper or cranking up your car before you drive. Quaint, but not how the world of the future operates. I can and have, gotten far and away more of an impact by simply putting my thoughts out into cyberspace, than I ever could have by sitting home somewhere and writing a book that most folk - especially Black folk - are highly  unlikely ever to read (and did it by putting in work in mostly in the WHITE sectors of the Internet, so we can kill the stupid noize about my supposedly trolling them for hits, too). At any rate, as is the wont of those who have been stung by the Barbs of Brutal Truth know and know well, all of that smack was a weaksauce defense against my simply laying a well thought out critique of the latest literary offerings by the VSB team, and because what I said was unassailable, they (the readers/commenters along with the site administrator, NOT the authors themselves; important distinction with a huge difference) decided to attack me - which is always prima facia evidence that I have won the argument. (More Equal Opportunity Offending in a moment)

Ferd understood all of this; he is what I consider to be a serious student of such things, and it is this among other things, that makes us kindred souls. After reading his Feb 25th Edict, I signed right up to volunteer to be on the squad, and within a week, I was good to go. Unlike others in the round, my strategy would be to offer both the carrot and the stick; taking the position of a columnist that writes articles twice a week, I would offer something a bit more sociopolitically inclined and edgy in the beginning of the week, and towards the end of the week, offer something in the self-improvement department, notably Game and sex/relationships/etc. Ferd liked the idea, and after a few technical glitches, we were off to the races.

But already, before my first IMF article was even posted, there were haters in the camp; my arch-nemesis, who needs no introduction, made his consternation quite clear on the prospect of a bit of Espresso getting into the Coffeemate mix:

"I don’t understand why’d you give a platform to anyone who wants it (yes I have one particular person in mind). I say keep this site for you and you alone (give or take occasional guest bloggers)."

But wait, there's more! Mr. OneSTDV got so worked up about the whole matter, that he devoted an entire post to his chagrin at the notion that a Brotha would be moving into the IMF 3.0 neighborhood; of course, anyone who is honest about One will note his penchant for purple prose, verbosity and most of all, intellectual dishonesty, so he just won't come out and say what he really means when he takes issue with Ferd's decision to push the ball forward, but we all know what he meant. (Feel free to see a point for point how-to on dealing with the Intellectually Dishonest One here and here)

And that, my friends, brings us to the present day kerfuffle that my latest IMF article brought about. In what must now be close to 100 comments, less than a fifth have actually addressed what I actually said in the piece; the vast majority of comments were devoted to attacking me in some way, or doing revisions of my article to make it say what they want it to say so they can then attack that. The overarching message however, was clear: it's NOT OK to criticize White guys, no matter how legitimate said critiques may be.

Ferd himself made the point quite crystal in his onlist comments on the matter; here he is on the comments thread to my MWM post:

"Obsidian, on the other hand, is well-known in these circles for his race obsession. I’ll be explaining more thoroughly why I published this article tomorrow, but let me just say that I’ve emailed Obsidian telling him to tone it down. If he pulls any of the ingrate antics he’s done at the Spearhead here, he’s gone."

"Ingrate antics"?!? Merely suggesting that grownassed Men dont go around looking like slobs, and having the gall to tell a bunch of White guys that they didn't have any real business being filled with so much hate in their hearts given their position in society currently and historically, is tantamount to "ingrate antics"? Really? If that's the case, I wonder what Mr. Bardamu thinks of the daily bile that runneth all over the computer screen throughout the Manosphere that makes anything I say tame by honest comparison? Sheesh.

At any rate, indeed, Ferd has contacted me about the matter, albeit his email to me was quite a bit more conciliatory and sedate than the gruff "make my day" kind of declaration made above; in the public interest, here is what he said to me directly:

"Also, while I did publish your "Marginal White Male" post (because Ithought your underlying message was important, as I will be explaining ina post tomorrow) and I encourage criticism and disagreement, as asuggestion for future IMF pieces, you should stay away from the sort ofgossipy finger-pointing at other mano-/alt-right bloggers found in thatpiece and more towards big-think, political/philosophical rhetoric aimedat a broader audience. I myself have been steering away from that sort ofthing because it's insular, self-defeating, femme and contrary to IMF'spurpose. I'm tired of these idiotic feuds on both sides of the spectrum -it's time to throw our hate and bile at the truly deserving targets." (email sent to me on Fri, Mar 25, 2011)

Tru dat - Ferd did indeed publish my article, and on Sat, Mar 26, 2011, gave his official take on the whole ball of wax. Hey, I got no problem with his or anyone else's opinion; let a thousand flowers bloom and all that (oh, and not for nothin',  but please note that no one has actually taken up Ferd's point in his post either, LOL; ain't that a kick in the head). But I DO have a huge freakin' problem with the tone of it all, to say nothing of what smells to this Brotha's nose like rank hypocrisy. Why do I say that?

Because for one thing, Ferd didn't seem to have too much of a problem with posting an incohate screed by Unamused just a few days ago, where he indulges his "race realist" and "race obsessed" predilictions with glee; that's OK, but what I said in my MWM piece, is not (Feel free to see a point for point refutation of Mr. Unamused's bunk here and here). Moreover, going beyond IMF 3.0, it is a well established fact that the Manosphere is chockfull of "race realist" bloggers and the like, and said bloggers, which are substantial in number and volume, are ubiquitous on the blogrolls of just about every blogger worth the mention in the Manosphere, where they can and do say all kinds of stuff about "NAMs" all the time, in the name and under the rubric of course, "keepin' it real". Of course, when this little inconvenient fact is pointed out, then out comes the Hear no evil/See no evil/Speak no evil routine - a perverse version of the NAWALT argument that these same dudes love to recite as if by rote: "Not ALL Manosphere Bloggers Are Like That!".

Uh-huh.

So, it seems to me that Ferd has his first bowl of shit here, if I may borrow a line from my all-time fave tv series The Wire - yummy! What does he do? If he's going to hang one of his staff members out to dry, yet leave the others in place for essentially doing the same thing (if not markedly worse), what does that say? Does he cave to the wishes of the OneSTDVs out there, or does he march to the beat of his own drum and stick to what he said per his Feb 25th announcement/mission statement? Time, my friends, will tell!

In the meantime though, getteth this: I am hardly a blind follower of anything. I have been in the business of pissing folk off with the facts before many of you - our fearless leader included - were even born, and if you think I'm hard on you White guys, just try hanging with me in the Afrosphere for a minute. I've been called a (self-hating anti-Black) "racist" and a "misogynist" more over there, than I ever have over here, though on this side of the aisle when I am charged with being the former its usually with the notion of "anti-White" being put in front of it, and when I actually give voice to commonsense views I'm accused of being a "proto-feminist". Not just any ole garden variety feminist mind you, but a *proto-feminist*. WTF is a proto-feminist? I'm still scratching my head trying to figure that one out, but it must be really bad because I pissed off a few White guys over here to get the tag, so there it is. At any rate, as you can see, my sole mission in life is to determine what is real shit from bullshit - and the truth is, that both camps, the Black and the White, have copious amounts of the latter in them up to their eyeballs. I learned a very long time ago, that the biggest threat to any group, clan, tribe, organization, is within; that it is only as strong as its weakest link. Both camps argue over penny-ante BS and scapegoatin' on folk that have little to do with any of their problems, or majoring in the minors and trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, while the real shit that is effing up their existence sits right under their nose and not only do they flatout refuse to deal with it, but they will render apart anyone who dares to speak its name. Not only is such a thing weak, it's also old. I may take my White brothers to task for the utter BS they wallow in, but make no mistake, I am downright brutal in the way I address my "own", too. Lest any of you doubt what I say, take it from another net-nemesis of mine:

"And he keeps dishing it out. I’ve seen him make salient points in discussions on many blogs about race that piss the living shit out of other black people – and dinky white liberals shocked that a Brotha would say such things (clearly, they don’t hang out with black people themselves). He’s got his hokey ideas, and he’s no iconoclast, but give him this: he’ll mix it up with anyone. I may think he’s a retard half the time, but that shit I can grudgingly respect.

Try honestly saying that about any feminist you care to name. Intellectual cowardice, thy name is Woman." (and OneSTDV, emphasis mine)

Word to your Mutha.

My job is done here.

Now adjourn your asses...

The Obsidian

20 comment(s).

Posted by Ferdinand Bardamu:

"The overarching message however, was clear: it's NOT OK to criticize White guys, no matter how legitimate said critiques may be."

Way to miss the point completely, Obsidian.

No one said you couldn't criticize white guys. You're perfectly welcome to do so. But you can't make STUPID, nonsensical criticisms and expect that no one will call you on them. And you can't run around with your moronic schoolboy antics and expect me to put up with it.

Your "Marginal White Males" article is a perfect example. You had a solid point to make, which is why I published it, but instead of focusing on the ACTUAL MWMs, you tried to backhandedly insult me, Chuck Ross, Foseti, and OneSTDV based on nothing more than what little information you know about us and your own biases. Your elementary school psychoanalysis is not only wrong, it's a distraction from the salient points you make. It's why almost everyone in this part of the blogosphere regards you as a laughingstock.

Unamused didn't do any of that - he made solid, funny arguments backed up with verifiable facts. He didn't run around goading other people to punch him on the chin and then cried persecution when one of them finally took a crack at it.

As for the Spearhead, while you got a lot of undeserved flack from the idiots there, you didn't help your case when you libeled them by claiming they were opposed to taking showers and the like. Then after that bitch got your old blog shut down, you went running back to the Spearhead begging for sympathy. Then you reverted to calling them losers and whiners after specifically asking for their support. If that isn't the definition of "ingrate," the word has no meaning. If you don't want to be associated with TS, that's your choice, but don't double-cross people and pretend like it won't make them despise you.

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Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 5:50 PM

Posted by Ferdinand Bardamu:

Continued from previous comment...

Funny that you mention Alte, Obsidian. In the same comment of hers that I cited as helping inspire me to launch the new IMF, she called you out alongside me for engaging in the exact same behavior:

"There are parts of the Manosphere that seem most interested in ceremonial rhetoric; the present tense. Your blog and Chuck’s (and ironically, Obsidian’s) would be good examples of this. Most of the writing focuses less on assigning blame, and more on taking cracks at other people, picking fights with whomever you think is the Biggest Loser of the moment (like this post), and promoting yourself as a special snowflake who is beholden to no one. It’s a one-trick pony, but it appears to be satisfying for some of your readership, and I admit that I also find it entertaining. People like ceremonial rhetoric because it strengthens group cohesion, and reassures them that what they are and are doing is "okay". That’s why sarcasm and snark are such nerdy traits; people who get picked on a lot tend to adopt them (yes, I know I’m very sarcastic myself)."

Curious how you had nothing to say to that.

In any event, Obsidian, this isn't up for debate, not so long as I'm footing the bills. You can do whatever you want elsewhere, but I've moved beyond this junior-high status-mongering and I'm holding your IMF contributions to the same standard. Everyone else on the masthead understands this innately - you're the only one who needs to be constantly reminded. Don't make me regret giving you this opportunity.

I should also mention that Escarondito and Advocatus Diaboli, no friends of HBD or the race realist types, are also on IMF's masthead. AD, I should remind you, is a guy who talks about murdering his political enemies (including HBDers) by tossing them in incinerators. And yet, no one's protested their inclusion. Only YOU are getting this level of vitriol and opposition.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 5:51 PM

Posted by Ferdinand Bardamu:

Oh, and posting a private email without permission is a violation of netiquette, but I'll let it slide this once.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 5:52 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

Hi Ferd,
Replies below:

"The overarching message however, was clear: it's NOT OK to criticize White guys, no matter how legitimate said critiques may be."

FB: Way to miss the point completely, Obsidian.

O: No, it's not. That was and is, at issue here. And you know it.

FB: No one said you couldn't criticize white guys. You're perfectly welcome to do so. But you can't make STUPID, nonsensical criticisms and expect that no one will call you on them. And you can't run around with your moronic schoolboy antics and expect me to put up with it.

O: All I expect you or anyone else to do, IS PROVE ME WRONG. To date, as I said in my piece above, and to which you cosigned in yours, no one has yet to do so. I find that fascinating - don't you?:)
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:34 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

FB: Your "Marginal White Males" article is a perfect example. You had a solid point to make, which is why I published it, but instead of focusing on the ACTUAL MWMs, you tried to backhandedly insult me, Chuck Ross, Foseti, and OneSTDV based on nothing more than what little information you know about us and your own biases. Your elementary school psychoanalysis is not only wrong, it's a distraction from the salient points you make. It's why almost everyone in this part of the blogosphere regards you as a laughingstock.

O: Yup, and why, even my most hardened detractors, say that I'm fair and balanced with my criticism. Let's see if even half of the White boys of the Manosphere come anywhere near close, shall we? I'll wait while you tally up the scores.

As for what I said about you, Chuck, Foseti, let's take a look at that, shall we? OK, let's start here - is any of you guys the next Thomas Edison? Jonas Salk? Sergei Brin? Mark Zuckerberg? Steve Jobs? Bill Gates? Henry Ford? Oh wait, I got it, y'all are the next Captains of Industry just waiting to blow up and take the world by storm, right? C'mon - I thought you liked to keep it real, son? Ain't none of y'all anywhere near close to that, and you know what, Ferd? That is perfectly OK. Ain't nothing wrong in the least with that. But we DO need to be clear on these kinds of things because otherwise you guys suddenly get confused and things like this happen. Oh, and what I said about you and Foseti, was absolutely true, unless you both were lying about your working lives, so if I'm wrong so are you. Now you don't work for big gubmint anymore, at least not for the Empire State, so it's cool - but I stand by what I said. And if it means anything, I just wasn't thinking about you all, but I wanted to finish my piece lest I got bogged down running out a litany of names. You guys bemoan "gubmint" BUT WORK FOR IT. What is up with that? What is up with hatin' on Black folk who work for gov't then? What is that all about?
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:35 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

If THAT ain't hypocrisy, then I don't know what is, and since I thought we were keeping it real, I decided to let everyone know what I really thought on that note.

And besides, all of you guys insult entire groups of people all the time, Ferd - what, y'all can't take a lil ribbin' from ONE Brotha? Is that it? Come on. You know what you should be doing Ferd, is you should be hopping all over Foseti for twisting what I wrote into a strawman, because he has a very nasty habit of doing that, you should strongarm him into actually addressing what I said. Good luck with that.

FB: Unamused didn't do any of that - he made solid, funny arguments backed up with verifiable facts. He didn't run around goading other people to punch him on the chin and then cried persecution when one of them finally took a crack at it.

O: I didn't "cry persecution" Ferd, although that's a nice try; I was perfectly willing not to say anything at all about the whole thing until you got all high and mighty with it in public that is. That's when I decided to do something. and whether Unamused was "solid" or not is not the point - the point is, that he's allowed carte blanche on being able to break on "NAMs" but I can't say anything about White guys, even if what I said was true. That, my good sir, reeks of rank hypocrisy. And goes against everything you said in my direct quotes of you, per Feb 25th.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:36 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

FB: As for the Spearhead, while you got a lot of undeserved flack from the idiots there, you didn't help your case when you libeled them by claiming they were opposed to taking showers and the like.

O: Buuuzzzzz, wrong. My piece had nothing to do with White guys, funny enough; when I wrote it, it was with BLACK GUYS in mind. So that's point number one. Point number two, is the fact that THEY, the Spearhead readers, were the ones spazzing out over what I said; the feeding frenzy was several hundred comments deep before I even got wind of what was happening, let alone make a few comments myself. Per the Spearhead readers, I was putting Women on a pedestal for merely suggesting that Men wash their asses. The hatred and bile and yea I'll say it, misogyny, goes that deep, Ferd.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:37 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

FB: Then after that bitch got your old blog shut down, you went running back to the Spearhead begging for sympathy.

O: Again, wrong. I wrote a piece for the Spearhead AFTER FINDING OUT THAT THERE WERE OTHER MANOSPHERE BLOGGERS THAT WERE SHUTDOWN or threatended with the same, again mind you, this was after my blog was shutdown. I wrote what I did as a show of solidarity with fellow bloggers, who, despite my differences with them - like Roissy - I still supported, if for nothing else, on principle alone. My article was to note that the issue was bigger than any one of us, Ferd. And that article, stands as yet another prima facia piece of evidentary proof, that I am hardly biased as people say. Like I noted earlier, I am an Equal Opportunity Offender, and proud of it.

FB: Then you reverted to calling them losers and whiners after specifically asking for their support.

O: A Wise Man once said that the beginning of wisdom starts with the calling of things by their rightful names. If guys are acting like losers and whiners, what, I'm not supposed to notice, let alone speak on that?
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:37 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

FB: If that isn't the definition of "ingrate," the word has no meaning. If you don't want to be associated with TS, that's your choice, but don't double-cross people and pretend like it won't make them despise you.

O: I didn't "double-cross" anybody, in fact, me and Welmer are cool to this day, and in the end, that's all that matters.

FB: Funny that you mention Alte, Obsidian. In the same comment of hers that I cited as helping inspire me to launch the new IMF, she called you out alongside me for engaging in the exact same behavior:

"There are parts of the Manosphere that seem most interested in ceremonial rhetoric; the present tense. Your blog and Chuck’s (and ironically, Obsidian’s) would be good examples of this. Most of the writing focuses less on assigning blame, and more on taking cracks at other people, picking fights with whomever you think is the Biggest Loser of the moment (like this post), and promoting yourself as a special snowflake who is beholden to no one. It’s a one-trick pony, but it appears to be satisfying for some of your readership, and I admit that I also find it entertaining. People like ceremonial rhetoric because it strengthens group cohesion, and reassures them that what they are and are doing is "okay". That’s why sarcasm and snark are such nerdy traits; people who get picked on a lot tend to adopt them (yes, I know I’m very sarcastic myself)."

Curious how you had nothing to say to that.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:38 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

O: Actually, I did; if you will kindly check the post which Alte is referring to on my blog, I ask her to elaborate on what she said with regard to me (about the race-baiting, etc) and she *demurred*. So, in truth, it was she, who had nothing to say to that.

FB: In any event, Obsidian, this isn't up for debate, not so long as I'm footing the bills.

O: Wrong, Ferd - in America, EVERYTHING is up for debate. And, nice how you try to strongarm a Brotha. Really convincing argumentation!

FB: You can do whatever you want elsewhere, but I've moved beyond this junior-high status-mongering and I'm holding your IMF contributions to the same standard. Everyone else on the masthead understands this innately - you're the only one who needs to be constantly reminded. Don't make me regret giving you this opportunity.

O: I don't respond very well to threats, Ferd. You'd do a heck of a lot better off attempting to reason with me, just like your boy Unamused's oh so reasoned, and "solid" examples you can sup from. I stand by what I said, and to this day, virtually NO one, has taken on what I actually said, and that's despite your clarifying post. Now, since you guys are supposed to be the Cognitive Masters of the Universe, can't you suss out the salient points from what you consider specious or superfluous? Must you have all points spoonfed to you? Either you address the meat of my arguments, or admit that you cannot. In that it's been nearly a week since my post first appeared, and nearly two days now since your followed up, I'll take that to mean, that those who whine and moan the loudest, CAN'T. On to the next topic...
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:39 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

FB: I should also mention that Escarondito and Advocatus Diaboli, no friends of HBD or the race realist types, are also on IMF's masthead. AD, I should remind you, is a guy who talks about murdering his political enemies (including HBDers) by tossing them in incinerators. And yet, no one's protested their inclusion. Only YOU are getting this level of vitriol and opposition.

O: As far as I know, Esca hasn't written anything for IMF yet, and what AD has offered has to do with the case for getting escorts. I knew precisely what I was doing, when I sent in that post to you Ferd. I don't do anything happenstance. And I got the results I was looking for. How predictable you guys really are.

FB: Oh, and posting a private email without permission is a violation of netiquette, but I'll let it slide this once.

O: Oh no you didn't just try and get all high and mighty on moi, Mr. Dark Knight - have we forgotten your little brand of vigilante style "justice" (hint: Julain Assange)? I did what I did because it was right, and guess who I got that move from - YOU. You said one thing to your boys out on the block, and said something completely different to me on the DL. Uh-uh - you gotta take a side, Ferd. Either its OK to criticize, or it's not, and please spare me the "sanitized" crap. What it comes down to, firmly, is this - the only people sanctioned to discuss Race (read: break on "NAMs", all with the patina of "science" behind it), are White guys. They can dish it out - oh boy, can they dish it out - but if my article proved anything, it's they can't take it. Esca nor AD count because both don't do it anywhere near to the degree that I do. So, yes, it was a move, along with everything thing else I said, especially the opening few paragraphs where I quote you extensively, to make you choose - are you going to stand tall on what you said, just over a month ago, or are you going to balk?

As I said, Time, will tell...

O.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:40 PM

Posted by Nicole:

Hey O,
I know this has nothing to do with your post but I need some advice on somethings. I am now in my junior year in college and it is time for me to declare my major and I am considering Conservation Resource Studies or Business Admin. I have done two internships(not much) studied abroad in London, and I work part time. My GPA is a 3.8 I have one more year to go so it does have potential to go down a bit or up however, I anticipate it to be no less than a 3.7. With that said, I want to work in Investment Banking after graduation(I know this sounds farfetched in this economy not that many young black women in this field but I am still aiming for this) what major do you think would be most marketable? I have already taken many of the environmental science courses needed to declare the Conservation Studies major if I decide to take business courses now I might have to stay an extra year with no guarantee of being accepted into the major. Plus, I am a really not all that hot about business or the coursework. I would hate for my gpa to take a nose dive because i am bored and unmotivated. I know business majors are in demand by many companies however, I am very passionate about environmental issues. But jobs in the environmental science field are scarce and are usually reserved for those that went heavy into science) plus they don't pay much. I plan to go to law school after a year of working so I have to really save. At this point, I have no clue what to do. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Sorry that my post is all jumbled.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:46 PM

Posted by Nicole:

Hey Von,
I know this has nothing to do with your thread but I need some advice on somethings. I am now in my junior year in college and it is time for me to declare my major and I am considering Conservation Resource Studies or Business Admin. I have done two internships(not much) studied abroad in London, and I work part time. My GPA is a 3.8 I have one more year to go so it does have potential to go down a bit or up however, I anticipate it to be no less than a 3.7. With that said, I want to work in Investment Banking after graduation(I know this sounds farfetched in this economy but I am still aiming for this) what major do you think would be most marketable? I have already taken many of the environmental science courses needed to declare the Conservation Studies major if I decide to take business courses now I might have to stay an extra year with no guarantee of being accepted into the major. Plus, I am a really not all that hot about business or the coursework. I would hate for my gpa to take a nose dive because i am bored and unmotivated. I know business majors are in demand by many companies however, I am very passionate about environmental issues. But jobs in the environmental science field are scarce and are usually reserved for those that went heavy into science) plus they don't pay much. I plan to go to law school after a year of working so I have to really save. At this point, I have no clue what to do. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Sorry that my post is all jumbled.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:47 PM

Posted by Nicole:

Hey O,
I know this has nothing to do with your thread but I need some advice on somethings. I am now in my junior year in college and it is time for me to declare my major and I am considering Conservation Resource Studies or Business Admin. I have done two internships(not much) studied abroad in London, and I work part time. My GPA is a 3.8 I have one more year to go so it does have potential to go down a bit or up however, I anticipate it to be no less than a 3.7. With that said, I want to work in Investment Banking after graduation(I know this sounds farfetched in this economy but I am still aiming for this) what major do you think would be most marketable? I have already taken many of the environmental science courses needed to declare the Conservation Studies major if I decide to take business courses now I might have to stay an extra year with no guarantee of being accepted into the major. Plus, I am a really not all that hot about business or the coursework. I would hate for my gpa to take a nose dive because i am bored and unmotivated. I know business majors are in demand by many companies however, I am very passionate about environmental issues. But jobs in the environmental science field are scarce and are usually reserved for those that went heavy into science) plus they don't pay much. I plan to go to law school after a year of working so I have to really save. At this point, I have no clue what to do.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 8:49 PM

Posted by Y:

I dont have much to say about this, although its interesting to read the drama... I must say, however, that posting a private message is not polite. People who would email you for whatever reason might be hesitant to do so because they dont know if they can trust you to keep the email private.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 9:31 PM

Posted by Ferdinand Bardamu:

"I don't respond very well to threats, Ferd. You'd do a heck of a lot better off attempting to reason with me, just like your boy Unamused's oh so reasoned, and "solid" examples you can sup from."

Wow. How long are you gonna keep digging in that hole?

Given how much karma you've burned, how many people you've pissed off in the past year, you should be grateful I let you join my site when everyone was telling me not to. For all my disagreements with you, I still think you have insightful things to say, so I opted to ignore the naysayers and be generous. You've just proven to me that that was a mistake.

I've deleted your IMF account and moved your posts to the "Guest Writer" byline. You aren't writing on my site any more. You can criticize me and rib me all you want, but the minute you start insulting me and trying to order me around on my own website is the minute you're gone.

Adios, amigo.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 9:58 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

Hi Ferd,
So, all is revealed. It ain't about "ordering you around on your site", quite the contrary - its about holding you to your own word. It's easy to say lofty things when your butt ain't in the crosshairs; something entirely different when you actually have to live up to what you spout.

I am more than content to let my words, and that of your readers, both here and over there, speak for themselves, and let others who just happen by, come to their own conclusions.

Later, kid

O.
Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 10:02 PM

Posted by Obsidian:

Hi Y,
Duly noted.

O.
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Sunday, March 27th 2011 @ 11:00 PM

Posted by Brett Stevens:

As I'm fond of saying, diversity works for no one. It doesn't work for whites, or blacks, or any other group. Racial antagonism is thus part of the terrain, even though it's less productive than talk about dismantling the real failures of a modern time:

* Democracy
* Equality
* Consumerism
* Liberalism
* Multiculturalism
* Big Media
* Apple Computer

But you have to figure that white guys sometimes get upset about being race-trolled. After all, we are under attack, and too often instead of doing the sensible but primordial and irrational thing -- tie up the white liberals and take away their car keys and voting privileges -- we try to reason it out instead.
Monday, March 28th 2011 @ 12:20 AM

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